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IT industry in NCR: Beginning of Disaster is visible now


By Unregistered Visitors, Section Gurgaon in Cyberspace
Posted on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 07:52:20 AM EST

 All these builders and politicians are killing IT and ITeS industry too because of their own greed. Current results:

1.) Infosys missed first time its own guidance in last 5 yrs and gave warning signals.
2.) TCS gave lacklusture results.
3.) Small companies like Hexaware show decline in profits.
4.) Phillipenes because of good US accent is going exponentially fast in BPO industry.
5.) Rupee is targetting 36 per Dollar in future.

All these factors are are coming into play and still Real-estate story is being driven on news, news and only news without any regard to genuine buyer fundamentals.

    * Formula 1/Intl airport in Greater Noida.
    * Gurgaon rentals up by 20%.
    * So many IT parks coming even if there won't be any takers.

India is globally recognized by IT biggies and because of these companies outperformance, Indian professionals got good increments year after year. Now that cycle has already its peak few months back and true time has come in this month after TCS/Infy results when all real estate builders/developers will see, an utter crash in the offing..
IT is a Brand for these builders and that has developed too much greed in these ppls. Greed will soon replace Fear and this fear should have atleast 2-3 years to play and this will teach them a strong historical lesson.

I will give u a simple example of an IT professional who is earning 10Lac per year (total exp = atleast 5 yrs).

2.5L gone to Govt as tax. Bal = 7.5L

2.5L gone to various lifestyle/household/rent expenses. Bal  = 5L

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Investements = 70K (atleast). Total Savings = 4.3L (per year).

Now with this 4.3L year after year, he will aspire to buy Car/House/Laptop/Touring and Bank balance Savings blah blah.
I have friends working in TCS/Infy and posted in US for last 3-4 years and even after working there for 3-4 years, they are still not able to purchase 30-40L flat in India.. They couldn't save that much amount even.

These builders don't know reality and they are still speculating on NEWS irrespective of genuine buyers fundamentals..

Greater Noida mkts run on PURE news even tough they are hardly any buyers.. Gurgaon is hub of call centers and ask any call center employee.. As per above example, his experience should be replaced by 7 years and Savings should be replaced by 2.3L as his lifestyle is much more lavish than simple IT professional..

Politicans/Big builders have huge land bank in NCR, metros and blore/hyd/pune etc. They will never let price go down at any cost. IT companies won't be able give so much rental every month to fill their packets. Even land prices have gone up so much and these crooked guys have created so much artificial demand that even if these companies need land to expand, then they have to pay high price. All in all, IT industry is already concentrating in low cost destinations skipping these metros..

Builders/politicians because of their insatiable greed is killing IT industry slowly and even employees of that industry have no choice  left to stay away from this speculation. Its not possible for any IT employee to buy even 40L flat and whosoever has bought till now, its either 2BR flat or they bought at rock bottom prices. Int rates won't help (even at 8%) unless the price come down too much.

It would be better for builders not to do business becaz of only speculative news (that will never help NOW) and look on the other side of grass. Real estate crash is in the offing and even if int rates will cool down in next 1-2 yrs, the upmove in housing mkt is finished.

In the end, whole real estate story is already over.

PS: I have just taken an example of IT companies but readers can assume any jobs driven industry.

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Another one bites the dust (none / 0) (#6)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 07:04:22 PM EST

Welcome to Gurgaon - the city with the second highest number of jobs in IT/BPO.

You are not the 1st one or the 100th one to cry in tears ... Gurgaon scoop in full of such stories - as old as 4 years.

Did you read the news "HDFC might reduce the interest rate"? What's your take on that? Your soothsayer icon - HDFC's Chairman Deepak Parekh, who affirmed a crash in Gurgaon's market 4 times in last 2 years (though it never happened), is reducing rates and saying -"Real estate market is now healthy". Can you buy (or plan to buy) in this healthy market?

More and more IT professionals are going for a top MBA in the USA, and with just one years's bonus these would sure buy back homes in one of the best city of India. Unitech/DLF is talking to these high flyers , not to the crying dorks.





u r rt (none / 0) (#12)
by bitseee on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:36:52 AM EST

yes u r rt IT industry is dead.
most companies want to shift from gurgaon due to high costs..

gurgaon can witness price level of 2003 soon...

IT firms/IT professionals ki lagi padi hai



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logic in buying a home of 40-50 L with a 50K job (none / 0) (#11)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Nov 22, 2007 at 04:15:56 AM EST

What is holding one to work/live in gurgaon. Does this house buy make any sense with his income or the facilities available here.

In my opinion one can permanently live in a resort/favourite place and do what he like most if he can afford buying a house in gurgaon.



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dreams unlimited (none / 0) (#10)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:15:26 AM EST

" More and more IT professionals are going for a top MBA in the US "

Do you know what's the cost of MBA in US. Buddy, I am surely amused with this statement. That tells about the level of immaturities and dreams what property dealers were witnessing last year..

If an IT professional is able to easily spend 30-40L in pursuing MBA from US university after following extra-ordinary cumbersome process and can earn 1cr per annum , then every IT professional will start going for MBA.

That post was the collective voice of those sectoral employees who are from fundamental (and particularly not speculative like real estate) growth drivers of the economy and they include IT, ITeS, Pharma, Banking/Finance, Manufacturing etc etc.

NCR region (infact whole north india) because of mafia-driven, scammed and highly speculative nature of real-estate development will screw its own-development. DLF, Unitech are today because of IT industry exponential growth and MBA is just a minuscle market for them.



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tired of this gurgaon story gone sour (none / 0) (#5)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 10:37:17 AM EST

so what does a person whos already bought a flat here do sell it off or just wait n watch for roads to come up your logic doesnt help matters i dont know .....have put all my earnings on one of these comming up projects and am worried that i might not get decent rentals






Oh God.... Logic Again (none / 0) (#4)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 08:26:19 AM EST

Dude, no use writing logic. Common sense is the most uncommon of all. Any sane person at these astronomical levels will rent with the money equation heavily skewed in favor of rent vs ownership.

So get rid of the logic, let the "so called" intelligent investors buy these over priced over hyped properties. Go ahead and enjoy these properties today at a fraction of the cost on rent.  Don't get frustrated, enjoy life and you will get ample opportunities to buy and own these properties at decent and right prices in coming years. Let the market forces play their complete part. Enjoy.






100% AGREE with you (none / 0) (#1)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:27:20 PM EST

U think exactly like me :). Whole system is rotten here.
There is always an artificial scarcity of land. Why can't they make expressway to take load off from main centre like Greater noida again and again till the prices are realistic. People know nothing after Great noida soon and so 3bed cost 60L. But we have one more greater noida with 10000 plots and it would come down to 30L for sure.

Farmers only want good price for land. They give land at ok prices to big builders who pay cut to all politicians and than take bigger cut from us.

A common man can't buy agri land as it would be taken by govt. in any name. But a builder can take agri land and easily get all clearances from all govt. agencies..

Anyway no country can sustain such level. Either Tier-II or III cities will pick up or all Industries will pay for this abnormal increase.

I have worked for a top most IT firm from 2000, am from IIT currently in US but still find everything too costly to even buy a decent house in NCR or Bangalore





Builders will feel the heat now (none / 0) (#3)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 12:22:02 AM EST

Genuine buyers has been reduced the market due to high price , high interest rates etc but now as IT companies/employees are also feeling the heat , everybdy who was planning to buy a high cost home thinking the prices will go up even further in NCR will surely put their plan on hold and I think that would be the good decision. read <a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Subprime_meltdown_sparks_blame_game/articleshow/2205690.cms">http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Subprime_meltdown_sparks_blame_game/articleshow/2205690.cms</a> to see what had happened in US real estate market and what is hapening today in the Indian Share market down 500 points.


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100% TRUE PICTURE OF NCR (none / 0) (#2)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 09:03:25 PM EST

absolutely agree with comment that who can pay 60 L for flat...even if you stay 10 years in US...life mein aur bhi bahut gum hai  bhai....

Ye to politicians and bureaucrats ki mili bhagat hai aan pad ganwar builders ke saath.....

Ek baar jab buyers hi nahin bachenge ya supreme court kuch karega tab inko samajh aayega...baise hum public bhi dhakkan hai....bhed chaal mein kharidte ja rahe hein.....



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Get a better education & job (none / 0) (#7)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 07:19:15 PM EST

Working in the USA is not equal to being rich, successful or intelligent... In fact, the most stupid workers i have seen in the US are Indian IT professionals. They wear sports shoes with a rotten pant, when even a mail delivery lady is also dressed neatly. They eat smelly food in groups during the lunch time and talk in local Indian languages, making others feel uncomfortable, and sometimes come to the office without shave. They don't know the manners of a developed world and stick among Indians only.. And with $$ touching 40 Rs scale, a default 60 - 90k job doesn't allow them to save enough to buy something premium even in India...

On other hand I have also seen aggressive and bold Indian personalities in the US, but somehow none of them is from IT. Females especially from DU or Bangalore are the best - hot, sexy and capable of becoming center of any conversation. She'd come in a BMW or Audi, and she understands how to behave - something which is very much required in the USA.

Moral - Being in the USA in IT functions is a very mediocre profile. Don't fret if you can't buy. You won't be able to.



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Correction needed (none / 0) (#8)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Jul 28, 2007 at 11:07:03 AM EST

I think you need a correction .. it was only this IT yuppies who were buying high value properties in Gurgaon / NCR untill they felt it was with in their reach, and now its out of reach for them even.


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gurgaon/goregaon (none / 0) (#9)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:15:46 AM EST

Its true , 3 years ago , I thought 35-40 was a good buy, so I bought one. Then 2 years ago I thought 45 is still ok as growth rates in india
is expected to touch 9%.
Then the prices skyrocketed, and dollar depreciated , so I am thinking , screw gurgaon , might was well buy a single family home in texas for same or less price.



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